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	<title>Comments on: PBwiki versus the speed of light</title>
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		<title>By: Nathan Schmidt</title>
		<link>http://blog.pbwiki.com/2007/07/27/pbwiki-versus-the-speed-of-light/#comment-25695</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 02:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bloodbeard,

Asia is next in the queue after East Coast US and Western/Central Europe.

@Kernigh, 

Yep, curl is one tool we use (almost the exact same syntax, actually) and there are a couple of other things we do to measure download speeds and times. The Firefox extension FireBug is very good for this kind of testing as well.

@jed624,

We're looking at a number of possible solutions, including Akamai (simple, expensive), our own hosted servers (tricky, expensive), co-located proxies (relatively cheap, relatively simple) and simply placing a couple more static asset servers around the world (relatively cheap, very simple)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bloodbeard,</p>
<p>Asia is next in the queue after East Coast US and Western/Central Europe.</p>
<p>@Kernigh, </p>
<p>Yep, curl is one tool we use (almost the exact same syntax, actually) and there are a couple of other things we do to measure download speeds and times. The Firefox extension FireBug is very good for this kind of testing as well.</p>
<p>@jed624,</p>
<p>We&#8217;re looking at a number of possible solutions, including Akamai (simple, expensive), our own hosted servers (tricky, expensive), co-located proxies (relatively cheap, relatively simple) and simply placing a couple more static asset servers around the world (relatively cheap, very simple)</p>
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		<title>By: jed624</title>
		<link>http://blog.pbwiki.com/2007/07/27/pbwiki-versus-the-speed-of-light/#comment-25662</link>
		<dc:creator>jed624</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Akamai service is a great and affordable way to go as well. (I'm not a salesperson... :-) )  They have 15,000+ servers all over the planet - and they figure out which server is closest to the user.  That buys a lot of peace of mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Akamai service is a great and affordable way to go as well. (I&#8217;m not a salesperson&#8230; <img src='http://blog.pbwiki.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> )  They have 15,000+ servers all over the planet - and they figure out which server is closest to the user.  That buys a lot of peace of mind.</p>
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		<title>By: herdingoldcats</title>
		<link>http://blog.pbwiki.com/2007/07/27/pbwiki-versus-the-speed-of-light/#comment-25350</link>
		<dc:creator>herdingoldcats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 02:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DSL stinks?
I guess "fragrance is in the nostrils of the beholder".
DSL is massively more fragrant than the dial-up we used to have.
Nonetheless, those are very interesting data points - I think you're surfing on the surplus brainwaves available in the Bay area and Silicon Valley.  You get a speed boost that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DSL stinks?<br />
I guess &#8220;fragrance is in the nostrils of the beholder&#8221;.<br />
DSL is massively more fragrant than the dial-up we used to have.<br />
Nonetheless, those are very interesting data points - I think you&#8217;re surfing on the surplus brainwaves available in the Bay area and Silicon Valley.  You get a speed boost that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Kernigh</title>
		<link>http://blog.pbwiki.com/2007/07/27/pbwiki-versus-the-speed-of-light/#comment-23730</link>
		<dc:creator>Kernigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 15:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found that I could use 'curl' to time connections to web sites. For example,

curl -w '\nconnect %{time_connect}, total %{time_total}\n' -o /dev/null http://kernigh.pbwiki.com

Here in the eastern USA, I find that it takes about 122 ms to connect to kernigh.pbwiki.com and 500-700 ms to download the wiki page. (A 'ping' needs about 95 ms.) However a real browser would be slower because it would have to download images/css/js, and I have not found a timer in Konqueror.

Maybe there is a Firefox extension that times connections...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found that I could use &#8216;curl&#8217; to time connections to web sites. For example,</p>
<p>curl -w &#8216;\nconnect %{time_connect}, total %{time_total}\n&#8217; -o /dev/null <a href="http://kernigh.pbwiki.com" rel="nofollow">http://kernigh.pbwiki.com</a></p>
<p>Here in the eastern USA, I find that it takes about 122 ms to connect to kernigh.pbwiki.com and 500-700 ms to download the wiki page. (A &#8216;ping&#8217; needs about 95 ms.) However a real browser would be slower because it would have to download images/css/js, and I have not found a timer in Konqueror.</p>
<p>Maybe there is a Firefox extension that times connections&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bloobeard</title>
		<link>http://blog.pbwiki.com/2007/07/27/pbwiki-versus-the-speed-of-light/#comment-23704</link>
		<dc:creator>Bloobeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about an Asian server too ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about an Asian server too <img src='http://blog.pbwiki.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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